Witness My Fury

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  Would you give your life for those that shun you?

  by Esse quam videri in

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  'no one has greater love than this, that someone would lay down his life for his friends.'.

  many have been hurt by the practice of shunning.

  family members, [former?

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  They are not your friends.
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  Sorry, But Your Sad Story Doesn't Make Me Feel Better. Is it supposed to?

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

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  i have very recently come out of a bout of severe depression which lasted for years.

  i have ginormous underlying issues which i hardly talk about, especially to my family.. today my sister came in, wanting to force me to do something she wanted.

  her strategy was to make me feel bad for feeling bad, just to show me that my problem (which she has no idea of but thinks she does) wasn't the biggest in the world.

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  Thinking others have it worse and i should have little to complain about actually does work for me, but only in a normal mental state, when i was suicidal it would not have helped one little bit.

  I dont know what does help in that state tbh, i scared myself with increasingly intrusive thoughts of suicide that i went to the doc and got some happy pills about 8 years ago. I resolved to be on them the shortest possible time and then quit, for me that was 6 months and it was still a bit too soon to quit, but by then i had a handle on my thinking and monitored my own moods and thoughts enough to push thru it. I've never looked back, I am the happiest i have ever been in my whole life now.

  I dont know what the answer is and i doubt there is a magic bullet one size fits all. The answer may be chemical, it may be psychological or a combination of approaches, but you are the person best placed to understand and analyse yourself. One thing that does help is to listen to the tape you play yourself in your head, really tune in and listen to it, if what you tell yourself is mostly negative then you are the only one who can change that tape and with effort and practise you can do so.

  Good luck....
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  I want to take them down

  by cookiemaster in

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  hey guys!

  some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

  i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

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  I think jwtv and this bunch of GB getting lots of air time is going to do the job of making people wake up quite well on their own....
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  One simple fact about Jesus that MATTERS . .

  by nicolaou in

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  2. beliefs

  he had a human father.. all those doctrines of redemption, ransom and forgiveness come to nothing in the face of reality.

  we need to look after each other..

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  I take it none of you has seen the 1981 movie Scanners then?

  Outlaw that was a bit gross though LOL...

  Seeking Agape completely missed the point of the OP too.
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  Help prevent sons indoctrination.

  by WasOnceBlind in

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  ok so here is the deal, as some of you who might have read my first post might remember, my parents are jw's while i myself have faded.

  i have not told them that i don't believe in the borg and i have done my research and concluded it's a bunch of crap.

  the main reason i haven't is because it would break my moms heart and probably send her into a deep depression (she suffers from depression).

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  No. The simpler solution is to lay ground rules for your parents when they look after him. He is your child not theirs, if you say no cult propaganda then no cult propaganda it is...

  If that is a scary conversation to think about, then think about your child succumbing to the bullshit and becoming indoctrinated instead.
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  Stress on young ones

  by LHS123 in

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  i had a horrible conversation with my 14 year old last night which i regret.

  im still in but doubting more and more every day.. she is recently baptized.

  she is outgoing and gorgeous and make friends easily, although not so much with the sisters in our hall, who pick her up and drop her again regularly , leaving her out of parties etc but then bringing her back into the circle, dropping her again...and so on.

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  Caring too much what other people think is socially crippling, i've done it most of my life and it is no way to live.

  http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/06/taming-mammoth-let-peoples-opinions-run-life.html

  Being a JW is all about being judgemental and fitting in, difference isnt encouraged, individuality isnt encouraged, sameness is.

  When I learnt TTAT and quit the JWs, almost overnight I became far less judgemental and more tolerant.

  Go easy on yourself though, it takes time to shake off the cult persona.
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Seeking support during confusing and stressful 'cognitive dissonance'

  by LHS123 in

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  sorry for the long post but i need help.

  ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.

  a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.

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  It's a process and it takes time. The only real advice is to do the research required to make sure.

  Some leave the JWs and live for decades still believing it all and feeling guilty and worthless as a result, if they had done the research and found out it's all lies they could at least have enjoyed their time a whole lot more.

  To cut to the chase here, it is a cult. As hard as that word is to hear, there is no doubt about it once you do the research honestly. Once you realise you have been duped for your whole life it will have emotional consequences that can take years to get past, but boy the freedom is awesome and so worth the effort to obtain!

  Take it slow and double check. Avoid speaking to others about what you find as there are obvious consequences for doing so without care.

  You should certainly postpone / avoid your daughter getting baptised before 18 (if at all). You know the possible ramifications for young teens getting baptised then getting into difficulty, so you have a right to say no until she is 18. Hopefully by then she will not want to at all.

  Yes you need to read read read. Take your time, it is worth it.

  A basic suggested reading list for exiting:

  Combating Cult Mind Control - Steven Hassan

  Crisis of Conscience - Ray Franz

  The Bible Unearthed - Israel Finklestein

  jwfacts.com
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  Thank you for redirecting me to the right organization!

  by economy in

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  thank you, jw.net and cofty, for redirecting me to the right organization!.

  when i posted why did god permit scriptures to be corrupted?

  then i thought, if there is an organization that believes all scriptures are corrupted (which obviously makes it enemy of all religions), that organization is not ordinary, but gutsy, lionhearted, and worthy of close examination!

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  Lets review: it's a cult!
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  Meetings

  by lavendar in

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  2. experiences

  my family member says he only attends two meetings per week.

  and only goes out on field service whenever he wants to.

  are some halls less strict than others?

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  They dropped the book study / group study a few years back so that leaves mid week and sunday. as long as he does some FS a month he will be largely left alone, if he misses a few months then the pressure to conform again will grow.

  It doesnt matter how they dress it up and fiddle about with it, it is still a cult.